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Hi, and welcome back to another episode of the diabetic and healthy podcast as always. Thank you so much for tuning in and listening this week. I have got another, your stories episode for you. So I am speaking to a lovely guy called Phil Cook. He's from Michigan USA and he has had type one diabetes for about five years. Um, Phil is a blogger. So if you want to check out Phil's blog, it is beetuslife.com. So, um, Phil talks a lot about diabetes and mental health. In fact, he's a real advocate for diabetes and mental health, um, and he tells us all about his diagnosis and how he has managed her condition over the last few years. So before I get started on that, just a quick reminder about social media, please, please do get involved with diabetic and healthy. Um, on Facebook we have a Facebook page. We have two Facebook groups, so we have diabetic and healthy community and we also have type one fit. So if you'd like to get involved in those groups, please check them out on Facebook, diabetic and healthy is also on Instagram. So it's diabetic underscore and underscore how fi, and obviously there's a podcast that you are listening to have a moment. Please do hit subscribe, save it. You never miss any future shows. Okay. So this is me talking to Phil, um, all about his story.
Hey, Phil, how are you doing? Good. How are you?
I'm very well, thank you. Uh, so what time is it there at the moment? Uh, it's uh, nine Oh four in the morning. Oh, okay. Nice and early . Yes. Yes. Um, so you have very kindly agreed to talk on the podcast today and, uh, share a bit of your story and yeah. Living with diabetes from, from your point of view. So should we start at the beginning and talk about your diagnosis? Yeah, I think that's a good place to start. Um, so I was diagnosed with type one in, uh, 2015 and, um, my diagnosis still quite new really five years. Yeah.
Yeah. Coming up on five years. Uh, November 3rd election day is actually my five-year diverse. So, um, yeah, so it's, um, relatively new still to this. Um, and my, my diagnosis actually, um, book about a year and a half. Um, they never, they never actually diagnosed me with, um, type 1.5 or anything like that. Um, they were just trying to figure out what was going on the whole time. Um, it was an interesting time period where I slowly was getting worse and worse and didn't really have an idea of what was going on. I thought maybe I had a food allergy or something like that. So I was, I started to keep like a food diary and kind of document how I was feeling, you know, before eating, after eating.
Yeah, exactly. Um, and it was really stressful. Um, you know, I had no idea what was going on and, you know, you start searching online, which is a terrible,
Oh no, never, never, always gonna say you're dying. Um, uh, what were your symptoms at this point?
Uh, so probably about, um, six months before diagnosis, I, I started to really get some of the symptoms, um, that you would consider to be type one where I was really not feeling good after eating, um, dry mouth, dry eyes, starting to go to the bathroom a lot. Um, and that, just those kinds of those kinds of things just progressively got worse and worse as it led up to my, my diagnosis. Um, because my, my body was attacking my pancreas so slowly that it was just this slow progression of trying to figure out what was going on, um, which, you know, most type ones it's, uh, you know, you're feeling great to being in the hospital and a couple of weeks later, you know, it was a, it's a different experience for me.
No, I'm with you. My dope diagnosis was like five years, so Yeah. A slow burner. Um, so how so, how did you get diagnosed? What was that like? Were you, were you going to the doctor during best time and saying like, this is how I'm feeling what's going on?
Yeah. I had a couple of doctor's visits. Um, they did, uh, you know, normal blood screening. They did all the tests and, uh, my fasting blood sugar was like one Oh nine. Um, which is basically, yeah,
It's different over here, but that's pretty normal, isn't it that's just slightly elevated. It was like pre-diabetic
Levels basically. So they were thinking maybe I was tight too, um, or, or, you know, heading in that direction. So they just told me to eat better and, you know, try to exercise more and, you know, um, just kind of stick to a routine and, and that those numbers should go down. Um, and it was, that was probably a year actually before I was diagnosed. And I had gone to the doctor a couple of times since then, and, you know, blood sugar was still kind of elevated and nothing really was showing that anything was too wrong. Um, finally, uh, I remember I had had some Thai food for lunch, um, while I was at work, most of it was delicious and high in carbs. And so I was feeling that kind of was like my deciding factor of like, okay, I'm going back to the doctor tomorrow because I feel so miserable.
Um, you know, and, you know, a few days leading up to that, my symptoms were just getting worse and worse. Um, and so when I finally did go to the doctor, they did all the tests again. And this time my foot, my fasting blood sugar was like Rio seven. Oh yeah. So, you know, after eating that meal, I was probably pushing, you know, five, 600 and, and that's why I was feeling so miserable. Um, and by that point I was getting, um, you know, like pain in my legs and tingling in my feet and stuff like that. And
So it was at this point,
Yeah, I think I had lost probably maybe 10 or 15 pounds. Um, so it was, it was really starting to progress to, you know, being fully type one. Um, and luckily, you know, I, it didn't send me to the ER or anything like that. Um, I think it was definitely heading in that direction, you know, had I gone, I think if I had gone maybe a couple of days later, uh, with eating and stuff like that, I probably would have ended up in the hospital and, and DKA and all that horrible stuff that you hear about.
Yeah. Um, so w what was your, what was your initial fault? I mean, did they say at that point you're type one or,
Yeah, they, he, he, when my doctor was basically like, you know, it looks like this is probably type one diabetes, let's run the, um, you know, antibody tests and stuff like that, to, that they can check to definitely confirm. And that took take a couple of days to get those results. And that had confirmed that, yes, I am type one. Um, and for me it was, it was more of a relief to be honest, because I finally had a, a treatment plan to get my life back in some sort of normalcy, um, because, you know, I was just like, I felt like I was dying. I mean, technically I was dying. Yeah. Um, and so, yeah, I think for me, because I had felt bad for so long and didn't know what the reasoning was, uh, you know, for me, it was a, it was a sign of relief, like, okay, I have a plan to get my life back in order and start actually feeling better, which was, it was great.
Can massively relate to that. That's exactly how I felt. I was like, yes, they've given it a name like,
Yes. And I can't imagine, you know, with, uh, you know, even longer, uh, hearing that you went through that, that must've been crazy.
Yeah. It was a pretty rubbish five years. That's unreal. Um, so what was your, what was your first move? Was it like, here's your insulin, this, what do you gotta do, you know, go away, live your life, or were there kind of loads of follow up appointments? So
There were some followup appointments with a diabetic educator and they were the ones that really, uh, you know, gave me the options of, you know, down the road, here's, you know, your options on taking a pump. Um, and, you know, they recommended me to get on pens right away. Um, and so that was basically my, my entry point of, of learning how to deal with the disease and what the different symptoms are and, and how to, uh, really breed it and manage it. Um, and then, you know, I had, I had to think a couple of follow-up appointments with my endocrinologist, but yeah, mostly it was the, the educators, um, that are trained to kind of be, do one-on-ones with you. Um, that was kind of where I got all my information from.
So initially you have this kind of relief because obviously you were unwell for such a long time and it's like, yes, you know, I can start to feel better. Now, did you kind of keep that positive mindset? Do you think did that, or was that kind of a realization later maybe, but yeah, actually this isn't that great of a day, this isn't that great of a diagnosis as it goes.
Yeah. Um, I think I was just in go mode for so long where I was just like, okay, I'm in a treat this, this is my life now. There's not much I can do about it. So I'm just going to, yeah. Yeah. And I think that lasted quite a while. I mean, probably a good year, um, where I was just, I was motivated to just start feeling better. And once I started feeling better, that was just a motivator to keep, keep going. And, you know, because I know how bad I was, cause it was still so recent that it really pushed me. Um, and once that, that initial period was over, um, it was, you know, I kind of had a time to really reflect back and go, okay, like, this is actually my life. Now I have to do this forever. Um, and it, as long as there's no cure. So, um, I think I just kind of accepted it, you know? Um, I've had, I've definitely had periods where, um, you know, I, I felt kind of depressed about it and, and things like that. And I definitely think everybody goes through that. Um, but, uh, for me it's always been, you know, just, just keep going. Um, and I think it's that reminder that I know how bad it was. I don't ever want to feel like that again. So I just keep pushing on.
And did you make a lot of obviously lifestyle changes in terms of you you're now injecting every time you eat? Um, but did you make lifestyle changes in terms of kind of exercise and your diet and things like that?
Um, I think I definitely, as far as diet goes, I definitely, uh, eat a lot less than I used to. Um, and certainly that was the way, um, after being diagnosed was I really, I think I cut back on my portions and things like that because I had to actually calculate what I was eating. And for some reason, you know, you have these things in your head, like, okay, if I eat, if I eat over like a hundred grams of carbs, that just feels like so much to me. And, you know, I was probably eating 200 carbs in a meal and not even blinking an eye and not even thinking about it. Right. Um, so it was just like this mental game of like, Oh, this is, I'm eating a hundred grams of carbs. Uh, like maybe I should put this one thing back and
Yeah, yeah. One, did she stay in numbers? Food starts to say it starts to look a lot different,
Right. When you're forced to count things and portion and weigh your food and everything, that was, that really changed how I, um, how I eat. Um, you know, and I still, I still eat pizza. I still eat, you know, unhealthy food and stuff like that, but I think portion wise, um, I definitely, and I don't snack as much as I used to and things like that. So I, I'm a lot more controlled in my eating, um, which I think has helped me, um, in my overall lifestyle. Um, and I say exercise wise, um, I didn't really, uh, I didn't really pick up much in the way of exercising. Um, that was a tough thing to try to get wrap my arms around because especially still being on, you know, the honeymoon period, uh, it was, you know, I'd go out and mow the lawn or something and build up a sweat and then,
Uh, no, I'd go.
Yeah. You know, when you, and you have to stop and go in and, and read that, and then you got to go back out and finish and then you end up low again and
Pretty crappy by this point.
It's like, you know, it kind of is a deterrent in some ways for me to, for me to exercise at least at the beginning. Um, and I've, I've definitely figured it out now. Um, most of my exercise comes from, uh, you know, chasing around a two year old and, uh, I picked up golf in the last couple of years. So I've been playing a lot of that, um, which is, which is great exercise, especially when you're terrible, like I am. And yeah.
Um, so you are kind of a bit of an advocate for mental health, um, and you've got your own blog, is that right?
Yup. Yeah. Uh, beet us life.com. Uh, I started that right at the same time. I started my Instagram account, which is, um, also at BEETUS life. Um, and I kind of started just documenting my journey of diagnosis to, um, you know, where I am now. And it was kind of cathartic in a lot of ways because that was the first time I actually really reflected, um, in a writing medium of what I went through and, and, and how I handled everything. Um, and I actually, uh, I actually have anxiety and depression. Um, and this was before ever being diagnosed with type one. Um, I've had it for several years and, um, so I already kind of knew the battles and different things that, that, that come along with that. And so when you add a chronic illness on top, um, it kind of exacerbates a lot of, a lot of those things, at least, um, at least at the beginning and, and, and to a certain extent today.
Um, so I'm, I'm very open about, um, mental health. I think the, the mental health side of, of having chronic illnesses is not talked about enough. Um, there's still a stigma around it. People aren't open about it. Um, you know, for a lot of people having a chronic illness, pauses, you know, diagnosable, anxiety and depression for people. Um, and there's, there's still not a lot of outlet, at least in this country for resources and things like that. And for people to, to get the help that they need. Um, I think that's, you know, the, the online community has definitely helped in a lot of ways, um, for me. And I know for others where, you know, just being able to talk to other people that are going through what you're going through is, is everything
Isn't it? Because it's not like walking around every day, you bump into people who can necessarily relate or, you know, even something like something really basic, like having a hypo. Like if you say to one of your friends who doesn't have diabetes, like, Oh yeah, I've got like major hyper hangover, like feeling a bit foggy. And they, you know, they got no idea what you're talking about, but you can literally go on Instagram, go on Facebook and be like, Oh, guys had a rough day today, you know, and everyone knows exactly, you know, what, you're going through, how you're feeling.
Yeah. A lot of people, um, I mean, I don't know anyone personally, you know, in their life that has, that has type one. Um, and so that's can be heavy feeling really alone, um, in your, in your management and, you know yeah. Like you said, having people to relate to what you're going through, because nobody knows what you're going through, except for another type one. Um, like you mentioned. And, um, I, I have a couple cousins that have type one, so I was able to reach out to them. Um, they were diagnosed several years before I was, um, so I had an outlet there of like, Hey, how do I handle this? What can I do? Um, I wish I had joined the, the online community a lot sooner. Um, I only started my Instagram a few months ago. Yeah. Um, I started it in may and I'm thinking, why did I wait so long? Why, why did I, why did I try to battle this alone for so long? Um, and I don't know if it's because it was just my own personal disease and I wanted to just, just handle it and just take care of it as part of my life now. Yeah. Um, but yeah, it definitely had me feeling like, man, I should have done this years ago. You know, I'm so glad that I finally started.
Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing how much support you get? Like, you know, I always save her, says, you know, there's positives and negatives to social media. We know if there's a lot of negative around social media, but the diabetes community is just amazing. Like the support and everything you can get online is, is so good.
Yeah. It really is. Um, I mean, like you said, it's, it's definitely therapy in a way.
Um, so you are dad.
Yup. Yup. I have a two year old daughter named Hazel and she keeps me on my toes and, uh, just, she's a wild child and she's a ton of fun. Um, and you know, that comes along with its own struggles with, you know, trying to manage a disease and, you know, getting caught in your tubing as well. So yeah, definitely talk about having high blood sugar. Um, yeah, my son. Right, right. Exactly. You can go back and look, you're like, Oh yeah, that's when he did this. Um, yeah. And just, you know, like toes getting caught in your tubing and ripping your sight out. And, uh, her just wanting to constantly play with my pump all the time, uh, or play with my, uh, my meter and stuff like that. And she knows it's daddy's medicine and, you know, it's cute that she just wants to check out. Yeah. Yeah.
So how long have you been on a pump? At what point did you get a pump?
Um, I've had a pump probably for a couple of years now. Um, I can't remember exactly when I got it, but I think it's around a couple of years. Um, and that takes some getting used to, um, and you know, it's expensive here. Um, so that was, that was an interesting journey in itself.
What, um, what led up to that? Like why did you make the change from the, you know, was it recommended you went on a pump or was that your own decision?
Yeah, it was kind of my own decision. Um, I wanted to try something else. Um, and you know, I always heard that you can get a lot more control out of a pump because of how, how exact it can get with dosing and things like that. Um, and just, you know, not having to stab myself multiple times a day with my insulin pen. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um, and so, you know, I got hooked up with that and, uh, um, the glucose monitor CGM and, uh, yeah, that was, uh, that was an interesting process. Just learning the ins and outs of how that whole thing works. Um, but it's definitely, again, was it like, yeah, it almost was, you know, you have to, um, you have to understand how to count your carbs and enter it in and, and, uh, you know, at least it, it calculates the insulin for you, which is nice.
Um, but just, you know, once you can actually see at all times what's going on with your blood sugar, that was always really interesting to me because, um, I didn't realize how much I was spiking really after eating and then coming down, once you start seeing that data, it's interesting, you know, um, I would just check my blood sugar, you know, a couple hours after I was after eating. Yeah. So when I start getting these alarms going off, you know, like, Oh, you're two 50 and I'm thinking, what do I do? You know, like, am I supposed to do anything? And then I would just end up waiting and then we'll be back down to normal. So it was just, it's having that data is good, but it's also like a little unnerving at first when yeah. You think that something's wrong, but really it's just data you didn't have access to before.
Um, yeah. I know that the only time I was offered a pump, um, because we're, I mean, we're lucky enough to get our insulin on the NHS, but there's certain, uh, criteria to getting a pump. Um, so generally you're on injections over here. Um, and I was offered a pump during my pregnancy. That was the only time I've been offered one, but, Oh, well, your control has got to be so tight during pregnancy. Anyway. I was like, yeah,
I don't think I want to change [inaudible].
Um, and then, yeah, I suppose it's a personal thing. Isn't it for me, I don't like the idea of having something on me all the time. And it literally that, even though I know I've spoken to so many people who have such good control on a pump it's um, yeah, it just freaks me out a bit, so yeah. I'll keep, I'll keep sticking it
I thought about taking a pump break, you know, um, and, and going back to pens, just, I don't know, to switch it up and, um, bit of freedom. Yeah, yeah. Not having something attached to me all the time, but, but then again, I, I like the control and the preciseness of the pumps, so it's hard to give that up too. Okay.
Pros and cons with both. Yeah. So being someone who suffers with depression, anxiety, and diabetes, is there any advice you would give to anyone else in a similar situation? Like you say, we, we don't talk about mental health enough. Um, and for some reason it does seem to be a difficult thing to talk about. And even though I openly talk about it myself and I've done podcasts on it, and I, you know, I put it on my social media, there's something kind of deeply ingrained
Isn't it? But Slack is
Just not as easy to talk about. Or for example, I, I can remember having a conversation with my doctor. So I, I take medication for anxiety and depression, and I was going for a period where I was really struggling. And he said, okay, well, you know, we we've done these other tests. It's, it's not something else going on. So you respond really well to your medication. Let's, let's increase the dose. And, you know, my automatic reaction was, but I don't want to increase the dose. And he says, if your blood sugar was high, you wouldn't question increasing your insulin. So why, you know, why is this an issue? And it really is like, there's something embedded. We put it at a different level to like physical illness and mental
Evident. You see it like, Oh, I'm getting worse. So I need more medicine, you know, I'm already on medicine. I don't need more.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. But when it comes to our events, we wouldn't be,
We wouldn't question it. I think the advice I would give to people, especially new type ones, um, is, you know, sometimes you just have to take it one finger prick at a time, you know, because there's so many unknowns, um, when it comes to managing your diabetes, especially at the beginning with being on your honeymoon period and, and your pancreas is still producing some insulin and, uh, yeah. And the burden of, you know, all of a sudden having a chronic illness, uh, is just really can weigh on you. Um, and yeah, so the, uh, that's, the advice I would give is just take it one step at a time and try to find a community, you know, join Instagram, join Facebook, find people that going through what you're going through. And, you know, you'll find people that have had diabetes for a month longer than you. And you'll have people that have had it for 30 years and everybody has different experiences. And, you know, uh, we're all fighting the same battle. Um, it just in different ways in our own personal way. Um, but the, the advice that people can give and, and, and help people get through things is, is invaluable.
Absolutely. Totally agree with that. Totally agree. And is that, it's the question I always ask. Is there anything that, you know, now that you wish you'd known when you were first diagnosed or that you wish someone had told you when you were first diagnosed?
Um, I wish I, um, I wish I would have known, uh, how different foods really play a factor in, in how your blood sugar reacts, um, you know, with the glycemic index of different foods and things like that and how much fat is in it and the absorption rate and, um, some more of the like technical information I wish I would have had at the beginning. Um,
Then your readings probably would have made sense a bit more.
Yeah. And, you know, and maybe that would have been too much information when I was just starting out, but, you know, with things like eating pizza, and I know so many people struggle with, with that and, uh, you know, how do I, how do I bowl this forward?
And for me it was bananas. I just started eating bananas again. Um, because they just spiked me so fast. So high. Yeah.
Interesting. Whereas I, I probably two bananas a day and the always have done isn't that weird.
Yeah. And I, I missed, I missed eating them cause I really enjoy eating them. And, uh, but it would just, for some reason, my body just, you know, you just know it's like, okay, well, I can't take insulin like an hour before I eat a banana because then, you know, in
The hospital. Yeah.
Right. Exactly. Um, it's yeah. It just seems like I can't ever catch up with that initial, like crazy spike of a beating of banana. So I, and, and, you know, with pizza and things like that of, you know, Ottawa bolus for it,
Pizza, I have
To, I love pizza. I can't give it up. Um, so yeah, just some of that technical information, um, about different foods, I wish I would have had at the beginning to help me understand, you know, how I can still eat the foods I like, um, and not feel like crap afterwards.
Yeah. Yeah. Um, and have you, have you ever ended up back in hospital with your diabetes in the past five years? Has, have you ever been through, um, have, have you ever developed DKA or anything like that or severe hypos or?
Um, no, actually, um, yeah. Um, you know, the doctors always are impressed with how, how controlled I am and, and, you know, I, I do take it very seriously. Um, and not that other people don't, but, um, I just, I'm pretty regimented with how I, how I handle it. And, um, yeah, luckily I guess is the best way to put it as I haven't had any crazy experience where it's put me back in, um, in the hospital or anything like that. Um, so yeah. Um, I'm pretty thankful and hopefully I can keep that going.
Yeah. Yeah. Um, and what is the, how to word this what's the most annoying or the funniest thing that someone has said to you regarding your diabetes? You know, we all get the whole like, Oh, I wish I had a pound for every time someone asked me if I used to be really fat, like, Oh, you have diabetes. So you used to be like huge. I was like, no, no, no,
Kind of the bad kind. Um, that's, that's the one I get a lot, um, you know,
Yeah. It, no one told me about this good kind. How do I, how do I sign up for that one? Um, you know, it's funny. It just, you know, it comes with a lack of understanding, you know, um, a lot of those questions that come about. And I think, um, with my, my pump, I, I get funny comments once in a while of, uh, you know, people seem to think either it's a pager, which why would I have one unless the doctor come back in time? Um, yeah. Um, or, you know, if someone thought it was a vape pen one time, um, no, it's just funny. Like,
You can't do that in here. Yeah. Like,
Uh, you know, people just, uh, it's, it's interesting that, you know, people sometimes are so forthright with their questions and they see something like, what is that? That's my insulin pump. Oh, um, yeah. And I think, uh, it's just a funny, a funny thing. Um, yeah, I think that the funniest thing that I get a lot is like the, is it a good kind of bad kind of question and it's, I don't know why
That's such a,
Yeah. Um, I guess I can still eat whatever I want and, you know, I guess, you know, there's definitely like some bros, I guess, that you could consider type one over type two, but they're both terrible.
I, I, I think I do better as a type one than I would as a type two, because I love my food. I love all different kinds of food. I have a sweet tooth. Like I think I'd be, I think I'm happier as a type one. I'd be more miserable this time too.
Yeah. Oh yeah. All that,
That would be great. Um, Oh, just, it just reminded me actually asking you that question, but I, I asked this question online, um, quite a while ago and someone commented and said, someone said to her, you don't smell like dive that. But yeah, that one, if that one's new on me, I, I,
I'm not sure what a diabetic supposed to smell like.
Maybe we're meant to smell really sweet. I don't know. Maybe that's hilarious. Um, what, uh, what would be your, so we've, we've talked about kind of a mental health side of it, but what would be your kind of top tips for anyone even newly diagnosed or who, who was just struggling in general with their diabetes?
Yeah, so, um, you know, I think, I think it goes back to, like I said, you know, taking it one, one finger prick at a time and really, um, just start, you know, if they start getting out of control, um, one direction or the other where you're feeling burnt out. Yeah. Just, um, price are, you can to just stick to a regimen of, um, you know, kind of going back to the beginning, if you're somebody who isn't, um, newly diagnosed and just kind of go back to what you did when you started, um, you know, check your blood sugar every couple of hours, um, weigh your food. If you haven't been weighing your food, um, you know, just start, start, regimenting your treatment plan and kind of get back in the flow, um, to where you are starting to, you know, really strictly manage it again. Um, you know, and then, you know, let back a little bit and, and, uh, I, I, and I've had to do that a couple of times where, you know, I just, I go back and really gets super strict with it and, and that helps get me back under control working like, okay, I got the hang of this again. Um, and, and now I can move forward. So, um, yeah, that's, those are the kind of tips I would give to
It's such smart advice because it really is like, it can get out of control and, and sometimes it can get out of control quite quickly. And it sounds really obvious, but if what you're doing, isn't working stop doing it. Like, but that's easier said than done, because if you're, you know, a busy person, that's just like, Oh crap, it's high, like inject, or, you know, get it gives them more and slim, bring it down. Oh, I'm high again. Oh, my high phone, it's high. And you get into this big kind of, Oh, you know, rollercoaster of blood sugar, but if you've got a busy lifestyle, it can carry on for awhile before you go. Right. Let's stop right. Start again.
And sometimes you just get into these weird habits when you don't really realize it, like, you know, Oh, I get up and, you know, and I'm guilty of this where I'll just, I'll wake up and I'll, you know, give myself the 19 grams of carbs in my pump for the granola bar I'm going to eat in the morning. And I don't check my blood sugar. I'm just like, you know, I'll give myself every day. Like, yeah, it's like, you know, really it's like, if I, I should have checked my blood sugar, cause you know, it's probably like one 50 or one 60 and I needed that little bit of extra insulin. Had it known. Um, you know, you just get into these weird habits sometimes, and sometimes you just got to take a step back and do it the right way, be strict about it and get back into a flow again. So,
So for anyone who wants to follow you on Instagram, your Instagram is
My Instagram is at BEETUS life, B E T U S and L I F E. Um, and my, my blog is fetus life.com. And, uh, I'm also on Facebook, um, at BEETUS life as well. Um, I, I not on there often, so if you want to interact with me, uh, Instagram is probably the best bet.
And if someone is listening to this now and say specifically, wants to connect with you about, you know, maybe they have really related to something that you've said, or whether it's the mental health side, is it okay for people to drop you a message on Instagram or
Absolutely. Um, I get, uh, I get messages from, from people quite a bit, um, you know, saying, Oh, I saw your story and, you know, I can relate to that. And I, you know, they start asking me questions and, you know, like I said, at the beginning, I'm an open book. I'm, I am not here to hide anything. I'm, I'm open about, you know, the mental health side of things and, and my, my diagnosis and, and the highs and lows and the struggles. So, yeah, definitely just send me a DM. Um, I'm here to answer any questions you have.
Lovely. Thank you so much. And yeah, I highly recommend, uh, anyone to go and follow you, who wants a really honest, honest account to follow? Um, I always say this, but you know, social media can be, people's highlight reel, but with diabetes is really nice to find that, you know, a really honest accounts, but do show the highs and lows of diabetes because, you know, that's what everyone else can really relate to. Like not all of them. Yeah. It's not all plain sailing.
Right, exactly. Yup.
Yeah. Knowing that not, not everyone has perfect blood sugars all day, every day is, uh, is actually reassuring to people with diabetes. So yeah, no, I really appreciate your account.
Well, thank you so much for coming on today and sharing your story and telling, telling us a bit about you.
Yeah. Uh, yeah, thanks for having me. Charlotte was great. Um, and, uh, I've, I've enjoyed talking to you and, uh, love your account and the things that you're doing. So keep up the good work.
Cool. Thank you so much. Well, have an amazing day and yeah, hopefully we'll get you back on in the future.
Yeah, it sounds great. I'd love to be back on. Thank you,
Right. Well, thank you so much again. And, um, yeah. I show see you on your Instagram story. I expect.
All right. Sounds good.
Well, it was great talking about his story. If you enjoyed that interview, please do check out Phil's email@example.com and he is also beat us life on Instagram as always. Thank you so so much for listening that is all for this week. Please do, uh, hit subscribe so that you don't miss any of the future shows. I have got some great ones coming up for you. So until next time, stay safe, stay healthy.
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